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With Adam Yaya-Durrant, Co-founder and Design Director, Yaya
The framework episode, recorded in 2024 before the cybersecurity focus. Revolutionary Vision, a proposition worth choosing, and the uncomfortable part: attracting the right buyers means being willing to repel the wrong ones. Security founders feel that trade-off hardest, because the instinct is to qualify for every RFP. The full method is the Cult Products Framework.
This is the episode where the Cult Products framework gets laid out directly, starting with a Revolutionary Vision and the unique value proposition that follows from it. The framing is deliberately practical rather than academic, aimed at founders trying to get chosen in a market where everyone claims the same things.
The counterintuitive claim is that narrowing the market improves how much of it you win. A smaller, clearly defined audience hears a message written for them. A broad audience hears one written for nobody in particular, which is why generalist positioning underperforms even when the product is strong.
The pairing that gives the framework its edge. It is important to attract the right customers and repel the wrong ones, and the second half is the part most companies flinch at. A proposition that everyone finds reasonable produces no strong preference, and strong preference is what a cult product runs on.
Modern House is used as the example of a niche brand doing this well, holding a clear identity rather than broadening to capture everyone.
The closing discussion is honest about the tension. The pressure to broaden increases with scale, and each individual compromise looks reasonable. The cumulative effect is a brand that once meant something specific and now means very little.

Phill Keaney-Bolland
Co-founder and Designer, Yaya
Co-founder and designer at Yaya, and host of the Cult Products podcast. Fifteen years designing products, brands and UX across multiple industries before narrowing to cybersecurity, and lectures on design at Imperial. Works with cybersecurity founders on positioning, strategy and the website that has to carry a launch, across identity, cloud security, AI agents and software supply chain, including Twine out of stealth and Geordie AI, which won the RSA Innovation Sandbox in 2026.
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